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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

NPR· Apr 2, 2026· 51m 37s

Gangsters, banksters, and politicians. Today on the show, how the hunt for Al Capone helped turn the IRS into one of the U.S. government's most powerful tools — and most effective weapons. This episode originally published in May of 2025. Guests: Joe Thorndike , historian for Tax Analysts and author of Their Fair Share: Taxing the Rich in the Age of FDR. Paul Camacho , retired special agent for the IRS Criminal Investigation Division and member of the board of directors at the Mob Museum in Las

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

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  1. Welcome to the program. I'm your host.

    Welcome to the program. I'm your host.

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  2. Today we look at the major stories shaping the news cycle.

    Today we look at the major stories shaping the news cycle.

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  3. We start in Europe, where leaders met in Brussels.

    We start in Europe, where leaders met in Brussels.

    0:09
  4. The summit focused on energy policy and migration.

    The summit focused on energy policy and migration.

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  5. Reporting from the ground, our correspondent has more.

    Reporting from the ground, our correspondent has more.

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  6. Thank you. The mood here was tense but constructive.

    Thank you. The mood here was tense but constructive.

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